Sunshine on Our Minds

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I spent the first 24 years of my life in Southern California, first in the Los Angeles area and then San Diego, with plenty of time at the beach. The smog in LA was horrific during my childhood, but there was always sunshine and no humidity. Sometimes it turned hot, but usually the climate was warm and pleasant, with the sun almost always shining (we did have rainy days now and again though). I have no bad memories of truly uncomfortable heat, even at my schools, which were not air conditioned. The weather was mild year-round except it seemed for around two weeks in late September/early October when the Santa Ana winds arrived and temperatures would climb to over 100 degrees for about a week or so.

I took all that beautiful California weather for granted.

I like seasons . . . sort of. I like rain . . . for a while. I like cold . . . for a while. Snow is okay as long as I can stay indoors. However, I despise humidity and only tolerate it because I have to. While I don’t care for hot weather as much as I did in the past, I can deal with it as long as humidity isn’t involved.

I am so very, very, very tired of dealing with humidity. Brett and I lived in the east (Florida and Maryland) for years while Brett was in the navy and neither of us could wait to get out from under the humidity in those places (Maryland’s was brutal), but we went to Japan after that and had to continue to deal with it again. I think one of the reasons I loved living in Portland for so many years was because although it was wet, it was never humid. It wasn’t the rain that got me down either; rather, it was the ongoing gloom and overcast that lasted for months. While Hawaii’s almost daily sunshine and warmth was wonderful, the full-time humidity there could be miserable. The trade winds kept humidity levels bearable for most of the time, but the winds stopped during the summer and into the fall and when they were gone temperatures started climbing along with the humidity levels. Life got wet, drippy, and downright uncomfortable. Summers in Japan have become increasingly hot and humid, and there is not enough money in the world to get me to go there again in the summer. It’s been the same in Tennessee. As the temperature and humidity levels (and allergens) start rising each spring I become a different person and I don’t want to be outside for any reason. Fall and spring weather here used to be something to look forward to but these days we seem to segue right from winter into summer, and then stay in summer way too long. We had what seemed like less than a week of crisp, cool fall weather last year, and temperatures were nearly in the 80s for a few days in December.

When we leave Tennessee we will be heading west. That’s all we know for sure now. We have no idea where in the west we’ll go but Brett and I are in agreement that we are going to ditch the humidity for good and embrace a warmer place. Southern California calls to us, but the cost of living is right up there with Hawaii. We have the skills and income to deal with it but don’t think it’s in our best interest to do that at this stage of our lives (which why we have given up on going back to Hawaii). Tucson is once again calling to us, and to our surprise so is Mexico. This country feels too crazy right now though to make any sort of decision about the future but we’re going to (have to) make one fairly soon. Stay tuned!

7 responses to “Sunshine on Our Minds”

  1. jhillers22 Avatar
    jhillers22

    I know many people trying to leave California due to high cost of living (including transportation, insurance, food, etc). Many have moved to Boise, Idaho area and Dallas, TX. Tucson would be a good place to live, but I understand this country feels too crazy right now to make any big decisions like this.

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    1. Laura & Brett Avatar

      There are so many here where we are that came from California and now want to go back. The cost of living is high there, but they miss all they had, the good weather, etc. I guess the grass always looks greener somewhere else. Tennessee has no state income tax, which looks appealing, but they get you all sorts of other ways (which we’ve found is true in every other no state tax state we’ve lived in, like Florida when Brett was in the navy).

      No decision yet, but Tucson looks very good right now. We’ll see.

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  2. Laurel Hill Avatar
    Laurel Hill

    I can definitely understand the desire for sunshine…especially this month. We have been in the single digits for days (weeks?) and it Just. Keeps. Snowing. It’s starting to remind me of the record snow year of 1978.

    I think someplace warm and dry sounds good. The humidity is killer and, while we loved visiting Hawaii when we lived on the W. Coast, it always felt damp to me. 😊 I guess people adjust to the humidity in Florida, but I never did. Dry is the way to go IMO. I loved the climate in the Bay Area, and just wish my whole family wasn’t so far away when I was there.

    Truly hard to know what to expect in this country anymore, although I do feel a smidgen of hope based on the wonderful people of Minneapolis. I worked for a company there before I retired and always thought it was a great city (subzero winters notwithstanding…haha).

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    1. Laura & Brett Avatar

      I am a different person when the sun is shining and can put up with most everything. The only thing that ruins it for me is humidity.

      SF is reputed to have the best climate in the country. It really is nearly perfect. It’s w-a-y out of our price range though, but still a wonderful place to visit. You get what you pay for in California.

      We’re giving ourselves until the end of May to make a decision about where to go. Hopefully we’ll have a better sense of where things are heading by then. I am more than impressed with the people of Minneapolis – they just keep showing up. The best of America!

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  3. Chris N Avatar

    I’ve lived in California since 1975. I do not think it’s crazy expensive. Yes, the Bay Area, San Jose, lots of places are, but lots of places are not, or at least to me. I have a very limited income now since Barclay died, and I still find it affordable. I shop at Costco, Winco, and Trader Joe’s for food, all affordable. Costco gas was just 3.36 a gallon. I do not know your income bracket, but most SS is not taxed if below a certain amount, and we haven’t had to pay federal taxes at all. You could look at Davis, which is very nice and mild climate. Also, up where I am, Auburn is really nice too. Since you managed Hawaii, I can’t imagine you couldn’t figure out California. Although Tucson is great some of the year, some of the year is brutal, and there is the issue of water. We lived in Tucson from 1970-1975 and it was glorious back then, now not so much. What used to be desert is not all built up all the way to the Catalinas.

    I think if you really want California, you should do it. Find an area that is affordable to rent. I know Roseville has very nice townhouses that rent for around $2300 a month. As I said, I don’t know your budget, but renting would be ok in certain areas. Buying would probably be out, but that’s even for most anyone right now.

    Best to you,

    Christina/Tahoegirl

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    1. Laura & Brett Avatar

      California remains on our list – we can afford to live there but it would use a lot more of our resources and we would prefer to use less and save more. I grew up in the Pasadena area, so I’m drawn back there, but all of California is beautiful and I know we would be happy there. So, we’d like to live there but not sure if we REALLY want to live there. Our SS would not be taxed but Brett’s military retirement and other pension would be. It would not be a huge amount, but something we have to take into consideration.

      You get what you pay for in California. Lots of people don’t feel they’re getting their money’s worth and are leaving. But plenty who have left are figuring out what they actually gave up compared to where they are now and are returning.

      P.S. I lived in Tucson ’72-’74! I was in the UA nursing program, and lived in the Colony apartments on the corner of Sixth and Campbell. The apartments are gone now and UA seems to have taken over the space. I was figuring out in ’74 I didn’t want to be a nurse, so left UA in the fall and headed back to San Diego.

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  4. Tamara / My Retirement Project Avatar
    Tamara / My Retirement Project

    Having just returned from Tennessee in December, returning to home here in California, and now currently being in the midst of a string of incredible weather, I really can’t imagine living somewhere where the weather is a deterrent for months of any year. So, I’m sure anywhere you land here out west will be very pleasant compared to the remainder of the country.

    Having lived here my entire life, California and it’s costs are the only thing I know, so the comparisons of costs here vs elsewhere fall, I’m happy to say, on non-comprehending ears. I’m sure it would be much more difficult to transition to California from somewhere else, but fortunately that is not our situation. We say we pay the Weather Tax to live here, and on balmy nights such as we have going on right now, it seems priceless.

    I look forward to following along on your Next Chapter Journey – and you have an open invite to stay with us at any time as you continue to investigate possible locations. 🙂

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